Friday, 30 July 2010
Some Evangelical leaders join Obama in push for amnesty
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COMMENT: There are some very troubling statements in this article. Using the political characteristics of illegals aliens as a justification for giving them amnesty seems to me to be compromising the law for political gain. This isn't about whether some of these people would support conservative policies, it is about the LAW!  It is about being a nation of laws and enforcing those laws equally across the board. Wanting our laws ENFORCED does not make us anti-immigration reform or anti-Latino.

What other crime would those quoted in the article agree that the guilty perpetrators should receive no real penalty for committing? Why should those who have already broken the law be allowed to jump in front of those who are trying to come here legally??
This whole dialog doesn't even address the OTMs (Other Than Mexicans -- like Muslims, etc.) that are coming across our porous borders. 
FIRST: Build the fence and enforce the laws passed by our duly elected representatives including the laws against employing illegals. (Amnesty supporters frequently state, as Richard Land did on a radio program on Saturday, that we don't have the political will to deport 12 million people. No one serious is suggesting deportation. However if jobs aren't available many of the illegals will probably leave of their own accord as they have been doing to some extent as our economy has tanked.)
THEN: Calmly look at the whole immigration/worker issue (NOT based on which party can leverage their votes) including a conversation about streamlining the process to come here legally.

Frankly, I don't see ANY Scripture that suggests that lawbreakers should be given special rights.  I do not interpret "treat the stranger as you would yourself" as a blank check for those who break the law.  Does anyone really believe that the 'stranger' here is someone who has broken the law to be where they are? And besides that, enforcing the law is not mistreatment of anyone and should apply to citizen and 'stranger' alike.  Remember,  "Justice" has a blindfold on!!

In the spirit of full disclosure, I have been an active Southern Baptist since 1947.


Obama Wins Unlikely Allies in Immigration


At a time when the prospects for immigration
overhaul seem most dim, supporters have unleashed a secret weapon: a group of influential evangelical Christian leaders.

Normally on the opposite side of political issues backed by the Obama White House, these leaders are aligning with the president to support an overhaul that would include some path to legalization for illegal immigrants already here. They are preaching from pulpits, conducting conference calls with pastors and testifying in Washington — as they did last Wednesday.

“I am a Christian and I am a conservative and I am a Republican, in that order,” said Matthew D. Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel, a conservative religious law firm. “There is very little I agree with regarding President Barack Obama. On the other hand, I’m not going to let politicized rhetoric or party affiliation trump my values, and if he’s right on this issue, I will support him on this issue.”

When President Obama gave a major address pushing immigration overhaul this month, he was introduced by a prominent evangelical, the Rev. Bill Hybels of Willow Creek Community Church in Illinois. Three other evangelical pastors were in the audience, front and center.

Their presence was a testament, in part, to the work of politically active Hispanic evangelical pastors, who have forged friendships with non-Hispanic pastors in recent years while working in coalitions to oppose abortion and same-sex marriage. The Hispanics made a concerted effort to convince their brethren that immigration reform should be a moral and practical priority.

Hispanic storefront churches are popping up in strip malls, and Spanish-speaking congregations are renting space in other churches. Some pastors, like Mr. Hybels, lead churches that include growing numbers of Hispanics. Several evangelical leaders said they were convinced that Hispanics are the key to growth not only for the evangelical movement, but also for the social conservative movement.

“Hispanics are religious, family-oriented, pro-life, entrepreneurial,” said the Rev. Richard D. Land, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, the Southern Baptist Convention’s public policy arm. “They are hard-wired social conservatives, unless they’re driven away.

“I’ve had some older conservative leaders say: ‘Richard, stop this. You’re going to split the conservative coalition,’ ” Dr. Land continued. “I say it might split the old conservative coalition, but it won’t split the new one. And if the new one is going to be a governing coalition, it’s going to have to have a lot of Hispanics in it. And you don’t get a lot of Hispanics in your coalition by engaging in anti-Hispanic anti-immigration rhetoric.”

Congress is unlikely to pass an immigration law this year. Republicans and Democrats who face re-election in November are skittish about the issue, given the broad public support for Arizona’s new law aiming to crack down on illegal immigration.

The support of evangelical leaders is not yet enough to change the equation. But they could mobilize a potentially large constituency of religious conservatives, an important part of the Republican base better known for lobbying against abortion and same-sex marriage. They already threaten the party’s near unity on immigration.

“These cross-cutting clusters are just splinter groups, so far,” said Larry J. Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. “Support for the Arizona law is so strong within the G.O.P. that it will be difficult for the comprehensive-immigration-reform evangelicals to have much short-term impact.”

But some evangelical leaders said their latest strategy was to push a handful of lame-duck Republicans to join Democrats — probably after the midterms — to pass an immigration bill on the ground that it is morally right.

Although other religious leaders have long favored immigration overhaul — including Roman Catholics, mainline Protestants, Jews and Muslims — the evangelicals are crucial because they have the relationships and the pull with Republicans.

“My message to Republican leaders,” said the Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, the president of the evangelical National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference and one of the leaders who engaged his non-Hispanic peers, “is if you’re anti-immigration reform, you’re anti-Latino, and if you’re anti-Latino, you are anti-Christian church in America, and you are anti-evangelical.”

About 70 percent of Hispanics in the United States are Catholic, but some 15 percent are evangelicals, and they are far more likely than the Catholics to identify themselves as conservative and Republican.

Evangelicals at the grass-roots level are divided on immigration, just as the nation is. But among the leaders, recent interviews suggest that those in favor of an immigration overhaul are far more vocal and more organized than those who oppose it. Read more here.
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Posted on 07/30/2010 6:48 AM by Bobbie Patray
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Tuesday, 6 July 2010
Blue Suede Jihad: Major Hamas Fundraiser Welcomed in the Land of Elvis
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Mohammed al-Hanooti raised six million dollars for Hamas. He is set to appear from July 13 through 15 at a mosque near the University of Memphis.

Notorious Hamas fundraiser Mohammed al-Hanooti is set to appear from July 13 through 15 at Masjid Al-Noor, a mosque near the University of Memphis operated by the Islamic Association of Greater Memphis. It is also the home of the university’s Muslim Student Association.

Mohammed al-Hanooti has been identified by federal prosecutors and top counterterrorism officials as a enthusiastic supporter of Hamas — serving as one of its top fundraisers — and also as an active supporter of terrorism and extremist Islamic ideology for several decades. He also holds the rare distinction of not only being named by prosecutors as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation trial, the largest terror finance case in American history, but also of being listed as a conspirator in the trial of the “blind sheik” Omar Abdel Rahman for the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and planned follow-up attack on New York City landmarks. FBI agents have also testified that al-Hanooti was a participant in an infamous 1993 meeting in Philadelphia of senior Hamas leaders in the U.S

Al-Hanooti’s terror ties go back to the 1980s, when he served for two years as the first president of the marzokIslamic Association for Palestine, an organization founded by Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook [left]. The group was found liable for $156 million in a civil trial brought by a Chicago couple whose son was murdered by Hamas while waiting for a bus in Israel. In the judge’s order in that case, he cited “strong evidence that IAP was supporting Hamas, consistent with the FBI’s surveillance reports.”

Evidence submitted by the government in the Holy Land Foundation trial also implicates al-Hanooti’s role in the top leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood and its Palestine Committee, formed specifically to provide support for Hamas. A 1988 list of U.S. Muslim Brotherhood leaders showslist of U.S. and international Palestine Committee members. Other documents entered as evidence include a 1991 study on Hamas featuring a forward by al-Hanooti, and a 1995 FBI wiretap transcript of al-Hanooti talking with one of the Holy Land trial defendants about how to raise money for the legal defense of Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook, then facing trial in New York. al-Hanooti as serving on the group’s sharia court. He also appears on a 1993

A November 2001 memorandum on the Holy Land Foundation’s financial support for Hamas, prepared by FBI counterterrorism assistant director Dale Watson, details information provided by two separate informants that al-Hanooti “was a big supporter of Hamas” who held fundraisers for the terror group, and that “al-Hanooti collected over six million U.S. dollars for support of Hamas.”

As noted in an extensive investigation by the Albany Times Union, during the early 1990s al-Hanooti was the imam of the Islamic Center of Passaic, New Jersey, which members of the 1993 World Trade Center plot attended. One used the mosque’s address to rent the truck used in the bombing. Another frequent visitor to al-Hanooti’s mosque was the blind sheik, who is currently serving a life sentence for his support and direction to the bombers.

And as the New York Times reported, in August 1999 al-Hanooti appeared as a witness at the trial of al-Qaeda operative Ihab Ali, who refused to testify about his knowledge of the plot to bomb the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. During al-Hanooti’s testimony he backed Ali’s silence, telling the court that Islamic law “gives him the right to abstain from giving testimony in case it hurts him or it hurts any other Muslim.” Whether it hurt U.S. citizens was apparently not a consideration for al-Hanooti.

Feeling the heat from the blind sheik’s terrorism trial, al-Hanooti moved to D.C. in 1995, where he became the imam of the Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, Virginia. He found a home there — in a recording made by the Investigative Project on Terrorism of a speech delivered in 1998, he declares that the D.C.-area mosque was the greatest example of “carrying out the Jihad that Allah calls for”: Read more here.

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Posted on 07/06/2010 8:18 AM by Bobbie Patray
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